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Troops are beginning to refuse to follow unlawful orders

Marine Sgt. Gary Stein

BREAKING NEWS:  It’s starting to happen. Troops are beginning to refuse to follow unlawful orders, such as taking away weapons from U.S. citizens or orders to kill Americans.

Excerpted from the complete article below:

….Stein’s new trouble started over a recent discussion on his personal page in which he said he wouldn’t follow orders from the president.

The discussion centered on an investigation and possible charging of troops for accidentally burning copies of the Quran, the Muslim holy book, in Afghanistan.

“I said I wouldn’t follow the orders,” Stein acknowledged. “But what I also said —- and what wasn’t included in the complaint that was sent —- is that I said I wouldn’t follow unlawful orders, such as taking away weapons from U.S. citizens or orders to kill Americans.”

Once they begin to understand that Obama/Soetoro is an unlawful and ineligible President and Commander in Chief, they will begin to stand down from all orders as they realize that the authority of the officers above them originate with the unlawful CinC, so that all orders become unlawful – thus exempting them from the protections of the Geneva Convention should they choose to follow them into battle.

The enlisted oath calls for upholding and defending the Constitution FIRST!

All the more reason to spread the word about the findings of Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse: The POTUS is ‘living a lie’, and is a usurper of the Office of POTUS.

Neil

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Source: NCTimes.com

By: Mark Walker

Posted: March 5th, 2012

Freedom of speech and military order may be on a collision course at Camp Pendleton over a Marine’s Facebook page that is highly critical of President Barack Obama.

The Marine, Sgt. Gary Stein, said Monday that he is under investigation by base officials for posting comments on his personal Facebook page that say he would not follow orders issued by the president.

Stein, 26, of Temecula, is also the founder of an Armed Forces Tea Party Patriots Facebook page, which prompted Marine Corps officials to warn him in 2010 about his political activities.

Stein said officials indicated on Monday that he may be charged with violating a provision of the Uniform Code of Military Justice addressing “good order and discipline in the armed forces, or conduct of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces.”

“I’ve had better days,” Stein said after meeting with his commanders. “They’ve read me my rights and said I made disloyal comments about the president, and are now questioning whether I can even run the page.”

A Marine Corps spokeswoman said Stein has not been charged with any violation and had no immediate information about the investigation that Stein said is under way.

Two years ago, Stein was counseled by base officials to be cautious about any blatant endorsements of candidates, the tea party or using his uniform in any way to influence an election.

Stein, a staunch opponent of Obama who does not believe the president was born in the United States and calls his birth certificate a fraud, first launched the tea party page as a protest against Obama’s health care legislation.

That page has nearly 10,000 followers, and most of its comments are anti-Obama.

Stein’s new trouble started over a recent discussion on his personal page in which he said he wouldn’t follow orders from the president.

The discussion centered on an investigation and possible charging of troops for accidentally burning copies of the Quran, the Muslim holy book, in Afghanistan.

“I said I wouldn’t follow the orders,” Stein acknowledged. “But what I also said —- and what wasn’t included in the complaint that was sent —- is that I said I wouldn’t follow unlawful orders, such as taking away weapons from U.S. citizens or orders to kill Americans.”

That part of his posting has since been removed, Stein said.

He said he believes that the complaint started with a senior enlisted Marine based at the Marine Air Ground Combat Center at Twentynine Palms.

Stein, a native of Bullhead City, Ariz., said he respects the office of the president, “but at times I do not respect the decisions and policies of the president.”

He said his commanders began questioning him last week.

“They were talking to me about like a father would to a son, but today it turned and they read me rights,” said Stein, who works as a weather forecaster at Camp Pendleton in its operations division.

A veteran of one combat deployment to Iraq, Stein said he’s also being questioned for posting a video about a Marine recruit losing his job at an area hardware store.

Stein said the recruit needed time off work to complete some pre-enlistment training, but was instead told he was being dismissed.

“That’s now also come up as an issue,” he said.

Stein said he will fight any attempt to muzzle him.

“I think we have a disease in the military that says because we don the uniform, we lose our First Amendment rights,” said Stein, who is married and has a 4-year-old daughter. “I think they are being squashed right now, and I think some people are taking some orders and regulations out of context.

“I’m prepared to fight to the end.”

When he got in trouble two years ago, Stein vowed “not go off on wild tangents like I did before.”

Gary Solis, a military law expert, said Stein could well be in trouble for saying he would not follow a command from the president.

But the matter could also be a test of social media policy and how far troops can go in expressing their views on such sites, said Solis, a former Marine Corps judge and prosecutor who teaches and writes extensively on military law.

“We’re in new territory with regard to that,” Solis said. “But what it probably comes down to is (whether) he made his comments while identifying himself as a U.S. Marine. As a private citizen he can say anything he wants, but First Amendment rights can be circumscribed in the military.”

Source: NCTimes.com

 

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109 Comments

  1. sharon9999

    March 6, 2012 at 3:08 pm

    One should not say it it on paper or out loud. One can discuss this stuff among close friends but if the order does come there should be mass disobedience

    • alex

      March 8, 2012 at 11:15 am

      SGT—FILE A US POST OFFICE INSPECTOR COMPLAINT ON OBAMA YEAR DATE OF HIS DRAFT CARD FROM HAWAII. IT HAS AN 80 FOR THE YEAR AND IT SHOULD BE 1980—IT IS A FAKE-FRAUD THEN—ALSO THE PAPER CAN BE TESTED FOR YEAR MADE—1980 DRAFT CARDS CAN BE TESTED AGAINST OTHER 1980 DRAFT CARDS PAPER COMPOSITION.

    • Susie Allread-Jones

      November 29, 2012 at 8:48 pm

      If any orders are in direct violation of our Constitution, then he DOES NOT HAVE TO FOLLOW THE ORDERS OF THE PRESIDENT. And seeing that our President is unfit to lead, UN-AMERICAN, and possibly and illegal, I hope the the whole damn Military turns against him.

      • Katie

        November 30, 2012 at 1:50 pm

        Im totally with you. Sgt. Stein is going with his gut and he’s right on. We all need to stand with him

  2. Theresa

    March 6, 2012 at 7:33 pm

    Sharon, another example of our brave soldiers that don't cower to the enemy…

    • William Z. Cohen

      December 2, 2012 at 10:42 pm

      First off, the oath we took is to defend this great nation against enemies BOTH foreign and DOMESTIC which could imply that we may need to fight those on our soil to include Americans.

      Secondly, Can you even bother to recall the number of Americans who have become terrorists??? If you have no clue, then STFU.

  3. dale keener

    March 6, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    you guys need to pull your head out of your anus our president is our president vetted by our government so if you don't like or care for him vote against him but get a real life and stop the birther BS you make me sick you are less than you could be because of this pack of lies you spread!!

    • MaryofArizona

      March 6, 2012 at 9:04 pm

      I am sorry to inform you dale keener, you, my dear are ignorant.

    • Scott

      March 6, 2012 at 10:26 pm

      He was not vetted by anyone. He is a foreigner and Anti-American. If you can't see that, you need to go to Kenya. Obviously you know nothing about honor or seving your country.

      • ROO

        March 7, 2012 at 3:51 pm

        I 2nd that Brotherhood!!!—Took the words right out of my mouth!!!—Next step???—Vote against him, or, hope he is impeached(sp).

    • tiredofcorruption

      March 6, 2012 at 11:45 pm

      He was never vetted. He might be one of the first presidents to be given a pass.

    • Nick

      March 7, 2012 at 1:17 am

      Wow Dale….. Sound like somebody took the blue pill for sure!! You're a complete fool you SHEEP! People like you are exactly why our country is going down the shitter. Get a clue…… Why don't you start by turning your TV off!!

    • Larry Snyder

      March 7, 2012 at 7:50 pm

      Dale,
      Please watch Jo Arpio dissect the forged birth certificate 1.
      Please explains how a ” now a US citizen” can attend Occidental on a Fulbright scholarship 2.
      And 3, please explain his massachucits SS number on a 119 year old deadman when he never resided in Mass. Please

      LAS
      Maj. Ret. 26 yrs
      Viet Nam / Desert Storm

      • Steward

        May 15, 2012 at 9:33 pm

        I am retired veteran, and I think the world has vetted McCain and his false claims of heroism, killing of sailors while practical joking with his plane, voting against personal protective equipment for soldiers in Iraq and everywhere else, but voted for all industrial military complex backed projects, scored a failing grade by the vast majority of veterans for both his idiocy revealed in many interviews, as well as his connections to mob bosses, fraudsters, and obvious dementia when speaking. His record "vets" him and vexed him. I strongly submit you who think of yourselves as worthy of wearing the uniform, learn to read voting records before throwing yourselves at the feet of a man who would continue our dependency on fossil fuels that have us dying in droves, while consistently he voted against any alternative energies that did not include the worst ones. He as is Romney, are slaves of psychopathic lunacy.

        As to the Neo-nazi sherrif – not even worth my breath.

    • James Carter

      March 8, 2012 at 9:47 am

      You punks need to quit drinking Obama-Aid. Usurper Obama was not vetted by our government, however our government did vet McCain. Additionally, usurper Obama was amongst our government’s officials who vetted McCain and, moreover, usurper Obama doesn’t meet the same criteria he himself agreed McCain met. You and your Obama lemmings ilk make me wanna puke. You are just as anti-American as usurper Obama!!!!

      Vietnam Veteran

    • vcubain

      March 8, 2012 at 1:26 pm

      Obama has to a helluva man to pull one over like that. Just think (according to some folks) he became PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA with a fake birth certificate. WHAT A MAN !!! WHAT A SMART MAN…WHAT A GENIUS without a birth certificate LOL

    • vcubain

      March 8, 2012 at 1:40 pm

      What is this world coming to ? A Marine who doesnt follow orders and posts on FB that he wont follow the President of the United States' orders. Sounds like Russia can make an easy deal with him to sell the United States out. Hope he doesnt handle any important information. THAT'S DEFINATELY NOT A MARINE.

      Semper Fidelis distinguishes the Marine Corps bond from any other. It goes beyond teamwork—it is a brotherhood that can always be counted on. Latin for "always faithful," Semper Fidelis became the Marine Corps motto in 1883. It guides Marines to remain faithful to the mission at hand, to each other, to the Corps and to country, no matter what. Becoming a Marine is a transformation that cannot be undone, and Semper Fidelis is a permanent reminder of that. Once made, a Marine will forever live by the ethics and values of the Corps.

      • Lee

        March 15, 2012 at 11:12 am

        Obviously you didn't read the entire article!
        Part of his comments were left out, which is a ploy of the liberal media to turn opinion against someone or something! The sergeant stated he would NOT follow any orders that went AGAINST the American people!
        Very obvious that many of Obams's directives DO go against the American people and the Constitution!

      • Mike Hobgood

        May 16, 2012 at 4:55 am

        That motto of the Marine Corps is for each other you twit, not the president or any other politician…..looks like you've already sold your "soul" to the devil…..no one is compelled to follow UNLAWFUL orders….and this is what this Marine was discussing…….

      • les k

        May 18, 2012 at 9:44 pm

        The man is a fake he should be impeached for the scam he has brought to america he should be arrested for treason…any law he has signed should be null and void…The man has scammed the american people and should be arrested and delt with to the fullest extent of the law

      • Diana

        December 8, 2012 at 9:57 pm

        SO, if ordered to do so, you would KILL an INNOCENT CITIZEN if O'Bama told you to??? It don't think many good soldiers would do that. Perhaps it were to be your child, your grandmother, YOU, your mom or dad? Would you feel the same way? Just askin'….

    • bonnie Morrison

      March 10, 2012 at 10:00 pm

      Are you in a trance or what, most of America gets it, Our Prez is Liar in chief, you drank that damn kool aid and are still in a trance, wake up!! This country is going down hill fast!

      • les k

        May 18, 2012 at 9:48 pm

        and the one person we will blame is obama….he rips the constitution daily and destroying our country I dont know how that man sleeps and he has children what a dad

    • Steward

      May 15, 2012 at 9:40 pm

      I'm surprise they even responded to you at all. Every time I challenge them in their forum on facebook, they run away or hide. If they respond at all, they try to change the subject. Here's a few reference for the offensive that Obama and no one in history can shine a light to.

      1.BUSH TAX CUTS FOR THE WEALTHY AND RESULTS WITH JOBS (DETAILED) http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=
      2.REPUBLICANS SAYS “NO” TO SMALL BUSINESS AFTER CRITISIZING DEMOCRATS FOR DELAY http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/29/gop-fili
      3.REPUBLICANS SAYS “YES” TO KYL- EXTEND TAX CUTS ONLY FOR THE WEALTHY –
      a.WASHINGTON MONTHLY AMAZING video http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individ
      b.HUFFPOST VIDOE OF KYLE http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/12/jon-kyl-
      4.REPUBLICAN TARP GURU NOW WANTS TO CUT YOUR ENTITLEMENTS http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/26/neel-kas
      5.REPUBLICANS SAY “NO” TO STIMULUS FOR JOBS (Just like they do against jobs creation and unemployment now) http://mediamatters.org/items/200902070003
      6.REPUBLICANS SAY “NO” TO SAVING THE MIDDLE CLASS (and proceeds to wipe them out) http://digg.com/d31X0kq
      7.REPUBLICANS SAYS “YES” TO TOP HATE GROUPS – TOP INVESTIGATORS SUMMARIZE CURRENT FACTS Documentary) http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/03/19/year-in-
      8.LIST OF CORPORATE OWNED POLITICIANS
      a .http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dylan-ratigan/banksters-revealed-again_b_652808.html
      b .http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dylan-ratigan/banksters-revealed-again_b_652808.html
      9.“REPUBLICANS SAY “YES” TO BANKS WHO COMMITTED 90% OF MORTGAGE FRAUDS. BANK INSIDER CONFESSES & SHOWS HOW SYSTEM IS GAMED AGAINST THE ECONOMY http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/13/the-four
      10.Senator Weiner on Health Care and Blocking by Republicons
      a .http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/29/anthony-weiner-911-bill-ballistic_n_664568.html
      b.YOU TUBE ORIGINAL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AG0ddWf9TQ

      • Chappy

        November 29, 2012 at 9:16 am

        This is politics, this is stuff Marines, Sailors, Soldiers, Air Forcemen, and the Coast Guard stays out of, this is business civilians handle through the voting booth. However, when it comes to the constitution, that’s a different issue altogether! When the CIC says he’s going to destroy or not uphold the 2nd Amendment, or he begins to break the Constitution, this is a military affair. Don’t start whinnying when he begins taking away your Constitutional Rights.

      • Debbi Lindsay McIntosh

        November 29, 2012 at 2:33 pm

        Wow….Huffington Post , how much more unbiased can you get for sources……LMAO !!!!!!!!!

      • Judy Janes

        November 29, 2012 at 3:16 pm

        Huffington post seriously you can’t believe anything they post bunch of liberal hacks!!!

      • Marees

        November 29, 2012 at 10:21 pm

        Oh my, you expect people to take you seriously when you reference huffingtonpost articles and the SPLC? Nice job COMRADE!

    • JayMac

      July 10, 2012 at 10:08 am

      Dale, you are 100%, totally mistaken. Obama was NEVER VETTED!!!! He is still NOT vetted!!!!!! Get your head out of your @$$ & WAKE UP!
      THIS is the VERY REASON we are now having dissent in our military!!!!

    • phil

      November 29, 2012 at 12:56 am

      Really? Where, when and how was he "vetted"…..and I'm not sure what you consider "birther BS", but he is not Constitutionally eligible to hold the office….he's not a natural born citizen, which requires that BOTH his parents MUST have been US Citizens when he was born…his "daddy" never was…..it "ain't" lies…it's true…the liars are obama and his administration….if their mouths are open…their lying….

    • @angelcandy54

      November 29, 2012 at 2:52 pm

      He only got reelected because of nationwide voter fraud! And we will not be cowed into thinking we have to respect this imposter just because he sits in the Presidents office! We will continue to bring it up at every possible opportunity!

    • Matt

      November 29, 2012 at 3:42 pm

      You look (very) outnumbered here…..maybe you oughta go believe (your) own lies.

    • wayne

      November 29, 2012 at 3:44 pm

      You are ignorant. You should do some research before opening your uneducated simple minded mouth.

    • Dave

      November 29, 2012 at 4:00 pm

      Be quiet sheepal. Don't like what is said, then keep your butt off this page.

    • eric

      November 29, 2012 at 9:13 pm

      i think you make us sick,,your the 1 with your head in your ass if you dont see whats going on,,you should look up illuminite on youtube ,,thats who obama works for.

  4. karenena

    March 6, 2012 at 8:22 pm

    But Dale, is it lies on our part or on HIS part. I say Obama is a lie from the start.

    • Steward

      May 15, 2012 at 9:51 pm

      It's lies far more on your part that lied Bush into office, that replaced what little political ethics that were left with fascists, that lied us into the Iraq war, and likely created the attack on the world trade in the first place. How about the fact that Bushes father and moreso his grandfather Prescott Bush were and still are friends and investors with the Bin Laden family, or the fact of trillions in tax-payer dollars lost by Cheney, or how about the fact that the Bin Laden family were the only people allowed to fly through out the whole united states on the day after the bombing of the world trade center, holla if you want me to show you who the Tea Party is. Lets just start with voting against Jobs, Public Education, killing voting rights and the right to get paid at fair market value for your work while they support extortionists who took, and wasted trillions from poor tax payers who pay more than they do, etc. just for starters. I'm a TRUE vet, who agrees with the vast majority of us that Obama is only doing what he can, in the midst of the lies that the republican and corporate owned media dictate to the masses through Fox News (now downgraded to "entertainment" by the FCC). Explain your icons deceiving America and the reason your own top scientist agaist global warming reversed his course. I'll stop there for now.

  5. dbredman

    March 6, 2012 at 8:53 pm

    Before a president can become Commander in Chief, Congress must declare war and give him the position. Read the Federalist Papers.

  6. MaryofArizona

    March 6, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    I stand by Sgt Stein. Thank you for your service sir.

    • Robert Marc Maldonado

      November 29, 2012 at 10:22 am

      I'll stand with stein also MoA Obama wants people to die and the military is stuck between a rock and a hard place,Have to admit it took guts for him to do that.

    • William Z. Cohen

      December 2, 2012 at 10:45 pm

      Mary, you are the perfect example of the blind following the nuts. What service are you thanking this Gary Stein for??? How about going to the local VA hospital and thank those guys and gals who are missing legs and arms for their service instead of a disobediant piece of cow crap who was discharged with a LESS TAH HONORABLE DISCHARGE.

      I served 23 years of HONORABLE SERVICE in the Marine Corps by the way.

      • MaryofArizona

        December 5, 2012 at 7:07 am

        Thank you for your service. Are you not clear in the situation America finds itself? The current commander and chief is a liar and a fraud who hates the military and is determined to bring America down. He is soon going to do something that is totally against Liberty ……..will you follow his commands then?

  7. Richard Steward

    March 6, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    OOH RAH Brother

  8. Camp David

    March 6, 2012 at 11:14 pm

    Dale,
    Your thinking made me sick!!! Wake up mf'r !!!!!!!

  9. Garrison

    March 7, 2012 at 2:44 am

    Remember, they took an oath to defend this country from enemies both foreign and DOMESTIC! Barack Hussein Obama is an enemy of the Constitution, and should be treated as such. Kudos to all the Marines, and others in our armed forces who will not follow unlawful, and immoral orders.

    • Dave

      November 29, 2012 at 4:03 pm

      I agree Garrison, Both foreign AND DOMESTIC, and any leader in Washington that swears an oath to uphold the laws of the United States, and dosen't is an enemy!! Obama picks and chooses which laws he wants to obey therefore he IS A TRAITOR AND ENEMY OF OUR COUNTRY!!

    • William Z. Cohen

      December 2, 2012 at 10:45 pm

      STFU you idiot.

  10. Debbie Fraser Benn

    March 7, 2012 at 6:49 am

    Was the action in Lybia "declared by congress?" Yet it DID happen. No one can say with any certainty that this birth issue is false or true because WE don't know all the facts yet. I am inclined to wait until all the facts are in, however I can not help but wonder if there is no "fire" then why all the "smoke" to keep it from becoming public? It could be as simple as taking "foreign student aide" or it could be a total farce? As for our troops not following "unlawful orders" HOOAH! Seems our troops have takin it on the chin lately…but without them to defend our freedom, security of our country and it's citizens we are doomed! What else is there without freedom & security?

  11. Santan

    March 7, 2012 at 10:26 am

    I was lead to belive. Militery have the right not to follow a unjust order .. Killing
    Americans or disarming them sounds unjust to me

  12. SueDi

    March 7, 2012 at 12:29 pm

    The President may be the President but he has no right to kill American citizens OR, as the NDAA allows, hold an American citizen indefinitely without trial. Unfortunately, we are not out protesting this gross injustice to our rights, we are following like lemmings over the cliff. We can only hope that if this or any President begins to use these powers, which directly violate the Constitution, we ALL voice our protest including our troops.

    • vcubain

      March 8, 2012 at 1:44 pm

      Did he just decide not to follow orders…because the war was going on under President Bush. So is it that he wont follow orders from President Obama, and did he follow orders under Bush, because that's a total difference and makes me wonder about the Marine.

  13. Call Me Mom

    March 7, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    Dale,
    Whether or not mr. obama was born in this country is not the issue. Whether or not mr. obama is a natural born citizen for the purpose of presidential eligibility is the issue and he is not. His father was not a US citizen, so, according to Vattel's law of nations, according to the writings of our founders, according to Minor v Happersett and according to non-binding SB 511, mr. obama is NOT a natural born citizen. In addition, he has committed multiple acts of treason against these United States and has submitted a forged document through the web-site of the White House claiming it to be the truth. He has allowed an officer with an otherwise spotless record to serve time in military prison for objecting to serving under his command in a cavalier manner. He has turned over the COMMAND of our troops(arguably the CiC's primary duty as president) to a foriegn entity(NATO) and has not made provision for our troops to be held to account only under the UCMJ while so serving.

    • Falbert

      March 9, 2012 at 5:35 am

      Mom,
      You are an idiot.

  14. Call Me Mom

    March 7, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    Instead of making it his primary duty to protect and defend the US Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic, he has made it his clear goal to "fundamentally transform" this nation. this is a violation of his oath of office as the president of this nation should be doing everything in his/her power to uphold the Constitution and the rule of law during theiur tenure in that office.
    This man needs to be removed from office and tried immediately.

    • William Z. Cohen

      December 2, 2012 at 10:46 pm

      SHUT UP.

      • Call Me Mom

        December 2, 2012 at 11:30 pm

        Good manners, Mr. Cohen, are an indispensible part of a civilised society.

        "It is in the manners and spirit of a people which preserve a republic in vigour. . . . degeneracy in these is a canker which soon eats into the heart of its laws and constitution."
        Thomas Jefferson

        "[N]either the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. He therefore is the truest friend of the liberty of his country who tries most to promote its virtue, and who, so far as his power and influence extend, will not suffer a man to be chosen onto any office of power and trust who is not a wise and virtuous man."
        Samuel Adams

  15. texacalirose

    March 7, 2012 at 7:42 pm

    The POTUS serves at the pleasure of the United States Marine Corp. Let us not forget that.

    • vcubain

      March 8, 2012 at 1:47 pm

      Semper Fidelis distinguishes the Marine Corps bond from any other. It goes beyond teamwork—it is a brotherhood that can always be counted on. Latin for "always faithful," Semper Fidelis became the Marine Corps motto in 1883. It guides Marines to remain faithful to the mission at hand, to each other, to the Corps and to country, no matter what. Becoming a Marine is a transformation that cannot be undone, and Semper Fidelis is a permanent reminder of that. Once made, a Marine will forever live by the ethics and values of the Corps.

      • issasmellsbad

        March 14, 2012 at 3:54 am

        He is a traitor and should be court martialed and charged with treason. A disgrace to the Marine Corps. You true patriots are disgusting bigots!

  16. Larry Snyder

    March 7, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    Gary,
    Join oathkeepers if you have not done so ready
    Www. Oathkeepers.com

    Larry a. Snyder
    Maj USAF ret
    Former E4
    Vietnam nam / desert storm
    Now a deputy sheriff

  17. Joe Smith

    March 8, 2012 at 8:20 am

    One does not swear oath to an administration. No kings or queens here. One swears an oath to up hold the Constitution of The United States of America.

  18. Can

    March 8, 2012 at 11:49 am

    Since Obama's father was not born in the US and hence some people state that he is not a US citizen then 6 other US presidents were not citizens as well.
    Andrew Jackson is the only president born of two immigrants, both Irish.
    Thomas Jefferson – mother was born in England
    James Buchanan – father born in Ireland
    Chester Arthur – Irish Father
    Woodrow Wilson – English Mother
    Herbert Hoover – Canadian Mother

  19. real american

    March 8, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    Any soldier the doesn't follow orders should be tried for treason! This idiot is a freaiIn soldier not a polItIcIan.

    • Jinzee

      March 8, 2012 at 1:28 pm

      That soldier has taken a vow to protect this country, and out people against 'ALL' enemies, both 'foreign', and 'domestic'. His vows are to protect the 'constitution'… NOT the president. He serves his country, for his people…. NOT the president. The president is also in servitude of this country, and it's 'people'. NOT the other way around. You don't know if this soldier is a politician or not, but one thing I can guarantee you is that the imposter in the White House has NEVER been a soldier for the US -don't you forget that. He has never served anyone but himself (and Allah).

    • irene

      April 9, 2012 at 1:18 pm

      what is that supposed to mean that politicians are above the law. they are not and we need more soldiers to disobey unconstitutional orders or our country will never be able to be saved. the only power the corrupt politicians have is the fact that the military will enforce for them, that is a huge advantage over ordinary citizens who are frustrated and fed up with our government ignoring the constitution and the wishes of the people. the people in government serve us the people and they should do whatever it takes to insure the freedom of the people from tyranny. Wake up real american – our government is being taken from us and transformed into an authoritarian one

    • C BENDER

      April 9, 2012 at 9:59 pm

      ANY PRESIDENT NOT UP HOLDING THE CONSTITUTION UNDER WHICH THOSE SOLDIERS ARE FIGHTING FOR SHOULD BE TRIED FOR TREASON, THIS IS NOT ABOUT POLITICS, THIS IS ABOUT NOT FOLLOWING THE COMMANDS OF A FRAUDULENT AND CORRUPT DICTATOR,THAT HAS SLIPPED IN VOTED ON BILL TO GO OUT AND AROUND CONGRESS,,AND TO MAKE NATO HEAD OF OUR MILLITARY.

    • C BENDER

      April 9, 2012 at 10:13 pm

      CONTINUING,JUST WHY DO YOU THINK WE HAVE CHECKS AND BALANCES? WHY DO YOU THINK WE HAVE AN ELECTION? WHY DO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE GO TO THE POLES AND VOTE? FOR JUDGES, GOVENORS, SENATORS, PRESIDENTS? BECAUSE THAT IS THE VOICE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. IF YOU DONOT BELIEVE IN ANY OF WHAT WE HAVE ABTAINED AS A BIRTHRIGHT TO, WHY ARE YOU SAYING YOU ARE A REAL AMERICAN? WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE ANOTHER HITLER COMMANDING TH E SOLDIERS TO TURN ON THEIR COUNTRYMEN,JUST BECAUSE ONE MAN SAID TO?

    • C BENDER

      April 9, 2012 at 10:25 pm

      continueing, YOU BETTER WAKE UP AND LOOK AROUND YOU AND SEE WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON IN THIS COUNTRY. AND THIS MAN IS AN AMERICAN SOLDIER, WOTH A HUNDRED TIMES MORE THAN ANY POLITICIAN WILL EVER BE. THIS PRESIDENT IS NOT FOLLOWING THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. GO LIVE SOME WHERE THAT THE THUMB OF OPPRESSION WILL INDULGE YOU. …………………. REAL AMERCAN HUh!!!! WHEN PEOPLE DO NOT REMEMBER HISTORY IT WILL REPETE ITSELF. ALL TYRNNY NEEDS TO GAIN A FOOT HOLD IS FOR PEOPLE OF GOOD CONSCIENCE TO REMAIN SILENT. ( THOMAS JEFFERSON ).

    • Mike Hobgood

      May 16, 2012 at 5:03 am

      OBVIOUSLY….you have NEVER served….if this Marine follows these UNLAWFUL orders mentined in this article….he'll shoot you first…..or maybe that would be a lawful one, and a medal to follow…….

    • andee

      November 28, 2012 at 10:27 am

      first real american's do not kill other americans. Seriously dude, not offense but your opinion's are as awful as your spelling

      • butlermedia

        November 28, 2012 at 2:41 pm

        You criticize somebody's spelling when you don't know the rules of capitalization or the proper use of apostrophes! LMAO!

    • Ralph

      November 28, 2012 at 2:39 pm

      Read the article idiot! He said he won't follow orders to disarm or kill American citizens! Unless you think U.S. soldiers should follow such orders.

    • Robert Buckman

      November 28, 2012 at 2:52 pm

      You sir are part of the problem…

    • Ron Drioane

      November 29, 2012 at 2:28 pm

      An American soldiers first duty is to uphold the constitution. Let me put it another way Real American. Were Nazi soldiers right to kill innocent Jews because their leaders told them to?

    • Eddie

      December 3, 2012 at 1:00 pm

      Anybody who falsely poses as the president needs to be tried for treason first !

    • Ruth

      December 16, 2012 at 7:53 am

      You are obviousaly not a "real american" because if you were you would know that a military personnel can refuse to disobey an illegal order. Such as taking away weapons from U.S. citizens or orders to kill Americans. He did not give up his right to free speech when he enlisted. He has every right to tell the truth.

  20. vcubain

    March 8, 2012 at 1:20 pm

    "Semper Fidelis distinguishes the Marine Corps bond from any other. It goes beyond teamwork—it is a brotherhood that can always be counted on. Latin for "always faithful," Semper Fidelis became the Marine Corps motto in 1883. It guides Marines to remain faithful to the mission at hand, to each other, to the Corps and to country, no matter what. Becoming a Marine is a transformation that cannot be undone, and Semper Fidelis is a permanent reminder of that. Once made, a Marine will forever live by the ethics and values of the Corps".

    "NO MATTER WHAT" is what it says…seems like the Marines have a few traitors in its midst who should not be trusted to guard AMERICA. They told America what they are capable of and what they will and wont do for AMERICA. I wouldnt trust these Marines, seems they do not have AMERICA'S best interest in mind and wouldnt mind selling out AMERICA. WOW and they claim to be MARINES !!!

    • George Payne

      November 28, 2012 at 5:15 pm

      Moron all members of the armed forces of the us (enlisted) swore an oath to defend the Constitution and the US from all enemies foreign and Domestic. A president can and has been a domestic enemy to our nation.

  21. Nathan M. Bickel

    March 8, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    This is good news! After all, troops are trained to follow the "chain" of command. And, how can they do that practically, (in all good conscience) when the chain has been broken by a bogus link – aka, the unconstitutional non natural born citizen [so-called] "president."

  22. John Gouldin

    March 8, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    The above articles are slanted in the ways of political civilians with axes to grind. They have that luxury. I would like to point out that American citizens are 'disarmed' everyday for a variety of good reasons. I'd also like to remind that "soldiers" (plural?) are not "beginning to refuse orders." That's merely inflammatory wording and plain journalistic lying. As for the rest…The military operates in a democracy and defends a democracy, but is not a democracy. Folks, don't be fooled into believing there will be any "test" of social media free speech. This individual will be clamped down on and rightfully so. He volunteered, fully knowing what he was giving and getting, with no duress to volunteer. If he cannot now muster the self-discipline to exercise the regulations he volunteered to live under in protection of a higher ideal, he and those like him need to man up, go to their superiors, explain their position, and take what comes. Semper Fi, Semper Paratus, Follow Me…..these words either mean loyalty, or they mean nothing. And for those who betray those ideals…to the fires with them.

    • les k

      May 18, 2012 at 9:56 pm

      I am an oathkeeper ..I took the oath ..to defend the constitution against foreign and domestic …I wouldnt shoot an american either…wake up,pal…the man isnt even the president to give an order

    • LES

      May 18, 2012 at 9:58 pm

      Think about this who in AMERICA are the real terrorist………THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT

  23. larry

    March 8, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    NO you should not be obeying ANY orders coming from the White House BECAUSE Obama IS NOT THE President. You should only be required to follow LAWFUL orders. You have taken an oath to protect our Nation from ALL enemies Foreign and Domestic.

  24. Jane

    March 8, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    Why are they waiting to do this now that the elections are around the corner? When they re enlisted Obama was in office, if they did not want to follow the orders then he should have gotten the hell out. So what happens to all the children of military people that are born overseas? What happens to a child of an American soldier serving in Japan. married to a Japanese? To me this is just pure bull.

  25. Jane

    March 8, 2012 at 5:55 pm

    All this post shall be send to the DOD so they can respond, how come it is only published in a Tea Party newspaper or Republicans news media. The GOP Conservative Tea Party, Religious people, yes religious my foot, you call yourself religious? You have call this man monkey, said he is a product of his mothers sex relation with a Dog, you wish him and his family ill thoughts, wow, VERY GOOD EXAMPLE FOR THE FUTURE GENERATION. You forgot about Nixon did you? How many vacations did Bush take to his ranch not to Camp David? If you are in office you should be able to take vacation to your home. How come you don't critize all this congressman that got all this companies pushing money down their throat so they can lobby for them?

  26. Richard Bolen

    March 8, 2012 at 6:36 pm

    I spent 21 years in the military and i learned 1 real good leason, you have to follow the orders of your commander in chief no matter what you think of him. Not to do so violates the UCMJ. The reason behind this is that the military is a dictatorship. Do not take me wrong i have all the respect in the world for the job our military has to do. It is a tough job to have to follow the orders of a socialists.

    • Melvin E. Holliday

      April 15, 2012 at 6:38 pm

      I too spent 20 years in the navy and I would obey all lawful orders given to me by my Commander-in-Chief. Obama is not now nor will he ever be a C inC and any order he gives is not lawful because he is not a lawful President. You p i s s i n g up a rope if you think otherwise.

  27. Toolman68

    March 8, 2012 at 6:37 pm

    When we took that oath to defend this Country against enemies both foriegn and domestic, how about telling me when the domestic applies? I say it applies today and to half of Congress and half of the Senate and Panetta and Obama, Pelossi, Biden, Clinton ETC… Sgt. Stein has more guts than 10 men because he is standing up for the Cosnstitution and the oath that he took and I am proud of him. He has taken it upon himself to draw a line in the sand and protect this country against a rogue government and thats more than I can say for 90% of the rest of Americans. When you get in front of Congress and you tell them that the president does not have to get ok from Congress to send our troops to war then we know what is happening in this government, tyranny in the halls and no way to stop it but marines and soldiers like Sgt. stein standing tall, Thank you Marine, Battle. my Brother..

  28. vesuvius13

    March 8, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    I haven't read his site or post but as a former Marine I remember my oath, the same one my son just made as he enlisted in the Army. We gave an oath to defend this country and our Constitution against ALL foes foreign and domestic. I almost stopped my enlistment when I got to that part needing to quickly decide if I could stand against people at home if it became necessary. In boot camp and at every point after I was taught and expected those under me to obey all lawful orders and to refuse unlawful orders. Joining the Marines isn't giving up our country or Constitution but instead about knowing who gives our orders and when the orders are lawful or unlawful.

  29. curlin2000

    March 9, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    I am an Army veteran but I find it so funny that people hate the president that much. I don't agree with all his policies but I don't degrade him as I see the GOP do. I voted for Bush twice and I voted for Obama cause lets face it – who the HELL wants Sarah Palin as VP or president. I wasn't going to turn a blind eye to that one. I was a republican but now I consider myself an independent. We all know why you guys hate him don't we? He didn't take us to war in Iraq or Afghanistan. He wasn't president when the economy went down intially. For a party of religious people who love the Lord – you are the most hateful, lying, and annoying people. It didn't use to be that way before but it seems that it has changed. I am prolife but if I want government to get out of my life then it seems contradictary. You have to be what you say you are. I like Ron Paul and I wish their was a way for him to win because he debates Obama on the facts not on made up information or hateful rehetoric.

    • curlin2000

      March 9, 2012 at 3:49 pm

      Politics has even messed up the man I once campaigned for – Huckabee – even he has started with the lies instead of just debating the true facts. We don't have to be hateful and racist to debate the president. As a veteran I wouldn't dare refuse an order due to personal thoughts and hate. However, when I saw that this article was about a guy who doesn't think Obama was born here – I realized it was no longer worth worrying about – birthers are idiots – there is a newspaper announcement on the day he was born in Hawaii and a birth certificate – but you still want to waste time and money on that issue. Figure out the economy birthers then we can talk…

  30. loveyourcountry

    March 9, 2012 at 5:12 pm

    This all sounds like an act of treason and all who buy into this should be court-martialed and/jailed for treason. Get over it. We get that you don't like the idea of an African American as our POTUS. All of this ugliness has become obvious since his election. But believe it, a country divided is bound to fail.

    • butlermedia

      November 28, 2012 at 2:43 pm

      No, you don't get it at all! All of you Øbama worshipers scream "RACISM" at anyone who dares to disagree with this Marxist phony. That is only proof that you have no real arguments to offer. Nice try!

  31. Rick

    March 11, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    Toolman68……..you hit the nail on the head, my friend. Thank you Sgt Stein for your service….on and off the battle field. Semper Fidelis Sir. This is a man truely looking out for America……..and Amreicans!

  32. rick

    March 11, 2012 at 5:47 pm

    Curlin 2000 you sound like a religion baiter, and loveourcountry is most definately a race baiter. The reason most sane people dislike Barry O is because he is doing his very best to destroy this country with his radical agenda. We see a weak president who bows down to the radical muslims, has us deeper in debt than any and every other president in history, combined, with nothing to show for it, and wipes his feet on our Constitution. WAKE UP PEOPLE!

  33. jtsgrandmom

    March 14, 2012 at 8:20 am

    Just remember, the "Nuremberg Defense," ("I was just following orders') won't work when the day of reckoning comes. And it WILL come.

  34. mryjane

    March 23, 2012 at 1:15 am

    are any of you morons noticing that if the military disobeys the President this country could be headed to a military coup? We will become another middle eastern country.

  35. SSgt 0369

    March 26, 2012 at 1:47 pm

    There have not been any illegal orders to kill or disarm American citizens domestically. This is complete non-sense. I find it particularly hilarious coming from a weather Marine.

    • Robert

      November 28, 2012 at 10:32 am

      SSgt, you seem to forget Katrina where our military was ordered to do just that and many legal, law, abiding citizens were disarmed and still have not got their weapons back, Notice I said Legal, Law Abideing citizens. The gangs bangers and looters still had their weapons. They went door to door confiscating those weapons. Now please try again.
      Sgt. Robert Poynter USMC "1980-1986"

  36. Patriot0ne

    April 1, 2012 at 7:26 am

    WHAT DO THE PEOPLE DO WHEN THEIR GOVERNMENT AND ITS POLICE BECOME THE MADMEN? Bowers v. Devito, 686 F.2d 616 (7th Cir. 1982) (There is no constitutional right to be protected by the state against being murdered by criminals or madmen. It is monstrous if the state fails to protect its residents against such predators but it does not violate the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, or, we suppose, any other provision of the Constitution. The Constitution is a charter of negative liberties; it tells the state to let the people alone; it does not require the federal government or the state to provide services, even so elementary a service as maintaining law and order.); (No duty to protect) = Rule 12(b)(6) Motion to Dismiss;Cf. Reciprocial obligations;

  37. Micheal Allen

    May 18, 2012 at 7:43 am

    Here is my rant. Certain rights are suspended by the USMJ while in the military. What it says is he can't attend rallies in uniform. Can't run for political office. But it does say "Support and defend the Constitution of the United States." I also took that oath and still hold it true. If the man in the Office of President can't prove he's a US citizen and in his own biography said he was born in Kenya then he first of all isn't defending the Constitution and more so setting and terrible example. Clinton did the same thing. And morally and ethically the orders given are unlawful, that the member of the military can refuse the order. However you better have all your ducks in a row and prove that the order was unlawful. As I personally found out you are guilty until proven innocent in the military and when you are proven innocent that doesn't stop your squadron commander from taking his own personal vengeance and stripping you of rank and in general make your life a living hell with all types of additional duty and weekend duty two times a month.

  38. go man go

    November 28, 2012 at 2:38 am

    A Marine following orders is one thing, but when the orders tell you to jump off a cliff? Well you don't do it. Mr. Stein is just posting what he believes in, and nothing else. He should have the right to post whatever he wants. Becoming a Marine, does'nt give the president the right to take away from the freedom of speech, to which we are all entitled to. One day i predict this maniac called Obama to declare martial law in this country. And with men like Mr. stein in the corps, i can sleep better knowing that order will not be followed.

  39. Shane

    November 28, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    I stand with the Sgt. He may be our Pres., that does not make him above the law.

  40. Larry

    November 29, 2012 at 1:03 am

    Wow, there are really some idiots on here. Obviously some of you that think you are experts are the farthest things from experts, as your stupid comments prove. I am a Veteran, and what is going on in this country is unfathomable, and Mr. Stein is right, he has no duty to obey an unlawful order by this ineligible, illegal in the White House.
    When you join you take an oath to defend the Constitution and the country from all enemies, foreign and domestic. Do any of you morons know the meaning of domestic? It is not an oath to defend the president.
    Just because a bunch of leeches and welchers that want free stuff everyone else pays for, puts an illegal in the White House does not mean he has free rwin to do whatever he wants. Wake up retards!

  41. a.k.

    November 29, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    I call BS

  42. Kreg Atterberry

    November 29, 2012 at 8:45 pm

    Your headline is a bit sensational and a real stretch from what has actually happened thus far, please try and be better journalists than the left.

  43. Steve

    November 29, 2012 at 10:23 pm

    According to the UCMJ, all members of the armed forces are bound to follow all LAWFUL orders. They have a duty and are required to NOT follow an unlawful order. Their guide for determining what is lawful vs. unlawful is the U.S. Constitution and the UCMJ.

  44. Barry White

    November 30, 2012 at 10:10 am

    he hasn't, to this point, failed to follow an order. so where's the crime?

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