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“Rogue”U.S. General Arrested for Activating Special Forces Teams; Ignoring Libya Stand-Down Order

   

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The official story surrounding the events of September 11, 2012 in Benghazi Libya which left four Americans dead, has now officially fallen apart.

After numerous flips and flops by the Obama administration, which originally attempted to paint the incident as a Muslim outcry over an anti-Islamic video, whistle blowers throughout the U.S. government, including within the White House, the State Department, national intelligence agencies and the U.S.military have made available stunning details that suggest not only did operational commanders have live visual and audio communications from drones overhead and intelligence assets on the ground, but that some commanders within the military were prepared to go-it-alone after being told to “stand down.”

Africom commanding officer U.S. General Carter Ham, after being ordered to essentially surrender control of the situation to alleged Al Queda terrorists and let Americans on the ground die, made the unilateral decision to ignore orders from the Secretary of Defense and activated special operations teams at his disposal for immediate deployment to the area.

According to reports, once the General went rogue he was arrested within minutes by his second in command and relieved of duty.

“(The) basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on; without having some real-time information about what’s taking place,” Panetta told Pentagon reporters. “And as a result of not having that kind of information, the commander who was on the ground in that area, Gen. Ham, Gen. Dempsey and I felt very strongly that we could not put forces at risk in that situation.”

The information I heard today was that General Ham as head of Africom received the same e-mails the White House received requesting help/support as the attack was taking place. General Ham immediately had a rapid response unit ready and communicated to the Pentagon that he had a unit ready.

General Ham then received the order to stand down. His response was to screw it, he was going to help anyhow. Within 30 seconds to a minute after making the move to respond, his second in command apprehended General Ham and told him that he was now relieved of his command.

The question now is whether the American people will hold to account the chain of command responsible for leaving our people behind, fabricating a politically expedient story, and continuing to sell the now defunct lie(s) even after all of their variations of the story were found to be false and misleading.

A General who made the decision to assist diplomatic and intelligence assets on the ground has been arrested and will likely be retired or worse, while those who ordered the removal of embassy security details and ordered U.S. forces to stand-down are left to go on about their business and likely risk more American lives in the future.

In some circles the actions of those at the very top of the command structure during the Bengzahi attacks would be considered traitorous.

 

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117 Comments

  1. BFurey

    October 29, 2012 at 11:56 am

    So wrong. Four Americans left to die. Wrong on so many levels.

    • Tony Poulson

      October 29, 2012 at 10:09 pm

      It doesn't overly matter if it costs more lives. The US armed forces don't leave our people behind, no matter the costs! What was done at the highest chain was treasonous and should be treated as such.

    • David

      December 25, 2012 at 8:02 pm

      Well I want to know if he is an "Admiral" than why is he a called a "General"?The statement in the report about his rank lends to allow critics of it's credibility. It's pretty hard to screw up the difference since there are no Admirals in the Army.

    • Dave

      May 10, 2013 at 12:10 am

      the XO should be in jail. along with all the others involved!

  2. Johnny B.

    October 29, 2012 at 11:57 am

    What I want to know is, who the hell was the second in command who relieved Gen. Ham?! A name would be nice.

    • sad citizen

      October 29, 2012 at 12:08 pm

      That would be the guy they promoted to his spot,his name was mentioned in another article but I can't recall it.Sounds like they expected it. Ham is a patriot in my book , I dont care if he did disobey orders. You dont stand by while people die…….Thats why the world is in the shape its in now. All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

      • Mike N

        October 29, 2012 at 10:33 pm

        Are the men doing nothing in this case good men?

        • kodster5

          October 30, 2012 at 8:53 am

          Absolutely NOT! That would be the men who told General Ham and Tyrone Woods to stand down. They did NOTHING!

    • James VanLanduyt Jr

      October 29, 2012 at 12:30 pm

      I would think it would be dangerous to give his name out. There will be people wanting his head for abandoning Americans.

    • Dale Rhoads

      October 29, 2012 at 1:56 pm

      General Rodriquez!

    • Skip

      October 29, 2012 at 10:32 pm

      The name I saw was Gen. Rodriquez that’s the person Penatta announced as Gen. Hams replacement.

  3. Carlos Helms

    October 29, 2012 at 11:59 am

    Hammy ain’t “rogue.” In the grand scheme, 1LT Leon is rogue. And Hammy won’t be the only one relieved-of-duty in the effort to cover-up this cluster prior to the elections. These men have a mission. The action they decided upon fully fell within their jurisdiction of that mission. There is no legtimate “stand down” order for a military that leaves no one behind. If 1LT Leon wants to come in after-the-fact and scrape up bodies – and then allow for the crime-scene to be compromised; he can take the fall-out from his actions. The “second-in-command” should be charged with mutiny.

    • Andrew James

      October 30, 2012 at 1:53 am

      Exactly Carlos,but lets all try to name the guilty as much as possible,we cannot let this dissipate into the news cycle,thank God Fox News is keeping this story at the forefront!!

  4. dan

    October 29, 2012 at 12:00 pm

    A true PATRIOT and OATHKEEPER

    • Nancy O'Brien

      October 29, 2012 at 1:12 pm

      I agree. I mean I "thought" we learned our lesson on 9/11 2000. Since that most hideous insidence
      I've heard of people all over that have a new vim and vigor and watchful,questioning eye. It makes me
      sick that this administration is probably going to get away with yet another "bump in the road", I
      believe were HIS terms. People think I'm crazy when I speak about him having the media on blackout.
      My son roars with laughter.. he's 27, and my daughter says, okay Mom, people are going to think you
      are crazy if you keep going around saying things like that. I'm overwhelmed.

      • WIMOMFORLIBERYY

        October 30, 2012 at 10:56 am

        Keep your head up. You are not crazy! Truth is not something your kids generation has been taught to desire/respect. I am 33, my sis is younger, and I can see the disconnect even. It’s like people wear lenses that make seeing importance in truth impossible. And I struggle to share truth with my liberal work colleagues every day, too. I pray for their eyes to be opened. Bless you, keep on the narrow path of truth.

  5. Cynthia M

    October 29, 2012 at 12:05 pm

    If Gen. Ham was arrested, then how did he address the press in Algiers on September 30, still as U.S. Africa Command Commander? http://www.africom.mil/getarticle.asp?art=8353

    • oh my

      October 29, 2012 at 1:04 pm

      I believe it was someone with the name Rodriguez

      • WendyG

        October 29, 2012 at 8:31 pm

        I was thinking the same thing Cynthia. Disobeying a direct order is a major offense on this scale. In past events when commanding officers have been relieved of their duties, it is rarely ever publicized. Really irritates me when the conservatives resort to embellishing something this tragic all the while lambasting the left for doing the same. I am NOT a left wing lib and consider myself Republican. With that said, The Tea Party is not helping advance the conservatives of the country by publishing articles such as this one. I highly suggest the Tea Party fact checks their sources (and lists them when posting the stories) and use only primary or secondary sources that are reliable. This does not mean you can use network news journalists (unless they saw it first hand) and never use Wikipedia! You have done a disservice to the men that died and/or were injured in this attack by posting incorrect and unverified statements claiming them to be facts. Please fix this if you care about your own credibility.

    • Skip

      October 29, 2012 at 10:45 pm

    • jepp98

      October 30, 2012 at 12:37 am

      General Carter Ham was not arrested nor replaced for doing anything wrong. This story is a blatant lie! Go to http://www.army.mil and search for General Ham's name. You will only find accolades to his long and positive career. What a shame that a man who served his country for more than 30 years would decide to retire but idiots like teapartytribune.com would try to blacken his name with a false story. May husband is currently an active duty U.S. Air Force member. We are disgusted that anyone writes this, but we are saddened that there are American people too ignorant to do research and find the truth. Get a life idiots!

      • Skip

        October 30, 2012 at 2:09 am

        This is far from the only place it’s being reported. Although most are far more reliable than this one. Granted there are some poor word choices in this article but, some would say there are some in your comment as well. The fact remains that your anger is misplaced and should be aimed at the person(s) who left our soldiers for dead not your fellow Americans that appreciate your husbands service and are glad it wasn’t him left begging for help in the middle of a fire fight. Those same people are the ones who are not going to let this disastrous scandal be another one that this administration sweeps under the rug! For that you should be proud and NOT calling people names. Again I thank you and your husband for his service.

      • Skip

        October 30, 2012 at 3:11 am

        Here’s a little better article for you. Oh and your welcome for the research I did for you. Maybe this is from a little better source?

        http://m.washingtontimes.com/blog/robbins-report/2012/oct/28/general-losing-his-job-over-benghazi/

    • ugo

      October 30, 2012 at 8:07 am

      yes, you got it right – all of the comments here are useless

  6. @undefined

    October 29, 2012 at 12:08 pm

    where did you get your info he was arrested? He was relieved of his command, we do know that, but arrested?

    • Bob Sowdon

      October 29, 2012 at 9:12 pm

      There was some liberty taken on assumptions. This is more of a blog post of opinion than a news fact sheet. There is enough real facts to know that the Obama administration screwed this up, not just at the time of this 911 incident, but also in preceding with the lack of security. It is inconceivable to not have a Rapid Response Unit from AFCOM not respond immediately when the first alert that the Ambassador was under attack, the lame cowardly excuse by Panetta of not enough information was illogical as in route intell could have been provided to the RRU team..there is no excuse to leave our Ambassador to die…#benghazi #benghazigate To write this makes me so angry…this POSW needs to be removed from the posituion of Commander in Chief immediately!

    • jepp98

      October 30, 2012 at 12:38 am

      He was not relieved of his command, he is retiring!

  7. Cynthia M

    October 29, 2012 at 12:09 pm

    In the article above it says "According to reports, once the General went rogue he was arrested within minutes by his second in command and relieved of duty."

  8. Cynthia M

    October 29, 2012 at 12:10 pm

    That is from the 3rd paragraph.

    • Nancy O'Brien

      October 29, 2012 at 1:18 pm

      Not only that… they have journalist at the wars that do 'Nothing" but report and take pictures. Goodness,
      how do you think we get the pictures and stories from the wars for history class.? They also have "just
      medic's" that are right on the front line with that journalist and my brother was a medic's assistant and
      the amount of babies he helped to deliver in Viet Nam was astronomical. So, why are you challenging
      these facts? We tend to trust the facts that come from usually factual people. Do you understand now?

  9. Terry Hemmer

    October 29, 2012 at 12:17 pm

    Panetta, Obama and H. Clinton should have been relieved for their failure to protect our armed forces. General Ham is going to be disgraced for having the cuts to stand up for his men. This is shameful by anyone's definition.

    • Les Tilton

      October 29, 2012 at 12:47 pm

      Couldn't agree more!

    • James VanLanduyt Jr

      October 29, 2012 at 1:17 pm

      Only those who held him in contempt to begin with will hold this against him. The disgrace is totally on those who told him to stand down.

  10. Nathan Pizzo

    October 29, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    This Benghazi attack is sure blowing up to a full on 'traitor' scandal for the WH. In any world – except the one we're currently in (bazzaro world) the President and his men would be in Leavenworth Prison right now – it's incredible that he is not impeached for this act of treason.

    Idiots guide to how to become a traitor to America:

    Hide behind the oval office desk and watch as your policies destroy the lives of four courageous Americans while you cower in shame. Then desperately hang on to your power, while lying through your teeth about what just took place on you watch. (or basically what our poor excuse of a commander-in-chief just did)

    We know what a traitor is…

    The WH is guilty of willfully giving comfort and aide to the enemy, while trying to save their pathetic hides, and watching heroes get shot and tortured. It doesn't get any more blatant that this. It's despicable, and they will not get away with it. American Justice will prevail.

  11. Jeff

    October 29, 2012 at 12:31 pm

    Reminds me of the movie "Behind Enemy Lines" in which Gene Hackman had to go against orders to rescue a Navy pilot, believe that was based on a true story too. When orders are stupid, the brave, courageous, and moral will go against it. Our founding fathers did!

    • kodster5

      October 30, 2012 at 9:02 am

      Danny Glover was the one that went against orders to rescue Gene Hackman, who played the Navy pilot, and yes it was based on a true story.

  12. Cynthia M

    October 29, 2012 at 12:32 pm

    This story is just NOT true. General Ham hasn't been relieved of duty yet and was NEVER arrested. he addressed a group of cadets at an ROTC luncheon on Oct. 22nd AS the commander of U.S. Africa Command. http://www.africom.mil/getArticle.asp?art=8397&am

    • Michele Brewster

      October 29, 2012 at 12:51 pm

      This article doesn't really say that he was not relieved of duty… maybe he was arrested and has since been released? This luncheon took place in the US while he was relieved of duty in Africa… I see the site header says he is commander though… could it be not updated yet?

    • Michele Brewster

      October 29, 2012 at 12:54 pm

      Ham IS being replaced by Rodriquez – and it doesn't say that Ham planned to retire at the end of the year or any such timeline…
      http://www.defense.gov//News/NewsArticle.aspx?ID=

      • Rusty

        October 29, 2012 at 3:24 pm

        Obama screwed up and is probably forcing everybody involved to say what he wants them to say. I have a friend in military and he told me that he could be dishonorably discharged for talking negatively about the pres because the pres is his boss. So Im not sure I'm convinced of anything. There are things we will probably never if Obama is reeecte

        • Tony

          October 29, 2012 at 10:16 pm

          If Ham disobeyed, he obviously doesn't mind disagreeing with the POTUS to the point of disobeying an order. And you think he would also go quietly and say what Obama wants him to say? Make up your minds please, does he follow POTUS orders or not?

        • amje

          October 30, 2012 at 12:40 am

          Military commanders/officers have never been allowed to speak negatively about the POTUS! This is not something new or something to do with the current POTUS.

    • Cyrus

      October 29, 2012 at 10:04 pm

      Do you know the difference between arrest and detention?

    • russ reed

      October 29, 2012 at 10:33 pm

      as far as YOU know..
      .

    • russ

      October 29, 2012 at 10:36 pm

      an arrest can last only an hour or two dont forget.
      He wasnt sent to prison…big difference?

  13. Jude Andrews

    October 29, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    NOTHING will happen because the American paperboys are the problem — they are the ones responsible for the cover up. They have abandoned their posts.
    It's up to us to make it happen.
    Call them, pls, demand the TRUTH. Honor the Americans murdered. Help tell their story.
    ABC Phone (212) 456-7777
    CBS Phone (212) – 975-4321
    CNN Phone (404) 827-1500
    NBC Phone (212) -664-3720
    COMCAST Brian L. Roberts CEO http://blog.comcast.com/contact_author.html?mailT….

  14. Les Tilton

    October 29, 2012 at 12:46 pm

    This is absolutely hard to shallow!

  15. Ryan

    October 29, 2012 at 12:47 pm

    The rogue commander is " The Commander in Cheif" he should be relived of duty.

    • Keni

      October 30, 2012 at 3:34 am

      yes! Thank you! Finally some COMMON sense in this crazy world…

  16. Michele Brewster

    October 29, 2012 at 12:47 pm

    Gen David Rodriguez is Ham's replacement
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/10/was-afric

    • jemj

      October 30, 2012 at 12:42 am

      Because General Carter Ham is retiring. Have you always been stupid or is it just when it comes to politics and military details?

  17. Cynthia M

    October 29, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    Gen Rodriguez was nominated on Oct. 18th but the appointment must be confirmed by the Senate.

  18. cheryl

    October 29, 2012 at 12:52 pm

    Will repost~Most of us would have done the same thing The Pres. was in charge He did Nothing. He is a Coward and has something up his sleeve and it no good what ever it is… God Bless. You in my prayers Cheryl

    • sonny

      October 29, 2012 at 3:14 pm

      Cheryl obama has said he would stand with his muslim brothers and he didn't want to take the chance of killing one of his muslim brothers, ok if our 4 good men were killed while he watched and doing nothing. Then the following day headed to Las Vegas on a money raising trip for his campaign.

    • Gerry Malan

      October 30, 2012 at 11:57 am

      Actually, most sane people would not blow up a large part of a city with a drone, killing many innocent civilians, for the pride of the American Foreign Legion. The military establishment is steadily trying to create two kinds of Americans: citizens and (voluntary) Warriors.

      The DOD already sucks out 60% of the entire discretionary budget! Please wake up and smell the napalm. We are on the exact same path as the ancient Romans. The President is standing in the breach.

  19. Marybeth Slocumb

    October 29, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    This is just sick. There were drones in the area…. DOD had ability to watch real time video of what was going on… HOW can they say they did not know what kind of situation they were giong into?!?!?

  20. bmgamblin

    October 29, 2012 at 12:58 pm

    We now know who real Americans are. Shame on these so called placebobonic pislam followers to cover up the sacrifice of the American Embassy.. These are the kind of people that would steal the false teeth from their Grandparents and sell it for the highest $. (SubHuman Low Life Scum… Undeserving of Recognition.) Guess what? If we do nothing and let these hooligan scallawags get away with it …. our family and children are next. They need to be tared and feathered. Treason is a death sentence in my book.

  21. Robert Houston

    October 29, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    Vice Admiral Charles J. "Joe" Leidig, Jr. is DCMO…not sure if that is the Deputy Commander or not. General Ham is still listed on the Africom Website as Commander Africom.

  22. @undefined

    October 29, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    "Arrested" means the military police did it. And a crime was alleged to have occurred. And he was taken to the brig. There is no way this happened. Relieved of position, now that's a different story. This story needs some serious fact checking.

    • 1Adam12

      November 2, 2012 at 9:46 am

      That is not true. Military Police have no authority to arrest someone they can only detain a person(s). People often get this confused. In the Military, to be arrested means you are being denied the freedom of movement and being charged with committing a crime either under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) or under federal/state/local laws. Detained means a person(s) is denied the freedom of movement for the purpose of questioning (which MPs do since they cannot charge a person(s) with committing a crime only an Official Authority can (i.e. a Provost Marshall, Court's Marshall, or a Federal Magistrate.) Under UCMJ a person who is next in charge does have the authority to arrest and remove a superior from command if that person is making decisions that will negatively affect the Military Service, goes against orders from a higher authority, causes or risks the loss of life or serious injury to personnel whether in the Military or civilian. It is possible that at that moment GEN Hamm was arrested and relieved by his next in command and then returned to command after the events occurred. It is also possible to be arrested or detained and not be placed in an area designated for confinement such as a Brig (Navy) or Confinement Facility (Army).

  23. sb36695

    October 29, 2012 at 1:39 pm

    Obama is using our military and our money to spread the muslim brotherhood.

    • amjepp

      October 30, 2012 at 12:43 am

      You are using this website comment box to spread your stupidity!

      • sb36695

        October 30, 2012 at 6:46 am

        Since you're SO SMART, what is your logical conclusion?

  24. Larry

    October 29, 2012 at 1:49 pm

    We don’t have a rouge General…we have a rouge President!

    • sonny

      October 29, 2012 at 3:16 pm

      absolutely correct statement POS POTUS we have

  25. Concerned Citizen

    October 29, 2012 at 1:53 pm

    The story was re-posted from another source. Even if it is still unconfirmed that he was arrested, he was still relived of duty for trying to protect our people.

  26. Richard Ryan

    October 29, 2012 at 1:54 pm

    Send Obama back to Chicago where he can attend Mans Country and play in poop with Holder and the rest of his sodomite friends. Maybe they can get Bawny – the faggot- Fwank to come visit.

  27. David Franklin

    October 29, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    FYI, a person in the military cannot be arrested, they can only be detained. Arrest is a civilian legal term. Such an act doesn't exist under the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Once detained, the service member is referred to his commanding officer for charges.

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  29. Brenda Middlebrook

    October 29, 2012 at 2:35 pm

    Once again,,,Obama has shown he is a traitor to this country….This is outrageous….help was refused our poor ambassador……..Obama should be charged with treason …immediately…no excuses.

  30. Barbara Coyne Campbell

    October 29, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    None of it makes sense…No one in their right mind would order them to stand down under those conditions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ham was right. Obama and his peons are so wrong! Ham never should have been put in this position!

  31. lucy goosey

    October 29, 2012 at 2:47 pm

    There's too much mis-information circulating and everyone profess to be right. Personally, i think the ambassador and his staff were going to be sacrificed because of the unrest and the seals, that were not there initially, disobeyed orders not to go and were killed. i think all Americans need to leave these volatile areas before our govt decide not to interfere with the unrest.

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  33. GetAJobGetALife

    October 29, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    It looks like it's time to arrest , 'Those who knew and saw what was going on in Libya while they were sipping champagne and eating cavier in the white house watching our Americans on the ground get killed!. The Inauguration Day for a real AMERICAN BORN president and AMERICAN BORN vice president.
    We can't get President Romney and Vice President Ryan in office soon enough.

  34. Debra

    October 29, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    Don't believe what you are reading. This is coming from the Tea Party. They spill hatred. That is what they do best. When it comes out on National News and not Fox, then it becomes creditable.

    • Surly Curmudgen

      October 29, 2012 at 4:19 pm

      Debra there are two kinds of Democrats. Those that know the truth behind the lies and have made a conscious decision to support the party regardless and those who, in ignorance, believe the lies and think they are supporting honorable men. Since your statement about the Tea Party is a blatant lie, which type are you?

    • russ reed

      October 29, 2012 at 10:43 pm

      yea, you mental midget, we are all racists too

    • Marian D

      October 29, 2012 at 10:48 pm

      Debra, If it were not for Fox News, there would be no real news. Take MSNBC, CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC…and there is nothing credible on them. They prefer to report fluff instead of the hard news. Fox has been on the mark and is the most watched news commentary on TV. You might want to watch it.

    • Ken

      November 4, 2012 at 2:41 pm

      Debra Wake up & stop drinking the Kool-aide… Fox is the only network that reports the news on both sides…. ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, etc. won't report against their golden boy Oblahblah… They have blood on their hands & are aiding the worst administration in history in this obvious COVERUP! They watched them die & DID NOTHING! That's YOUR PRESIDENT FOR YOU! It 's Sickening! You won't see this on the National News because they want Oblahblah re-elected & won't report the NEWS if it goes against their Golden Boy!!! Get REAL!!!

  35. Rusty

    October 29, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    That part "didnt know what they were getting into" is just wrong. Somebody's calling for help and you stand down? Military guys don't know what they are getting into lots of times. That's what they signed up for. When a friend of mine was doing door to door searches in Iraq, he never knew what was behind the next door. 2 of his buddyies were killed because they didn't know what was behind the door. But in this case they knew what was behind the door and it was American citizens in trouble. What Obama ordered was an act of treason.

  36. Kim Laws

    October 29, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    Of ALL the players in this Libya TERROR attack debacle, General Hamm is the only one that has acted with honor and integrity! (Besides the SEALs and those on the ground in Libya) What the HELL is wrong with this administration?

  37. pauldavidwheaton

    October 29, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted."~~U.S. Constitution, Article III.

  38. finishstrongdoc

    October 29, 2012 at 4:50 pm

    This goes all the way up the chain of command to POTUS. No way he COULDN'T have known this was an ongoing threat to American lives. It's like saying the Captain of a US Navy vessel doesn't know when a man goes overboard. No matter where the Skipper is, he's notified. And before the Skipper gets back to the bridge, the officer on the Bridge has already given the order to change course & rescue the man overboard. This is like the Captain countermanding the STANDING order to search for and make rescue efforts for a man overboard. It's like saying…"Naaah, skrew him….back to previous course."

    More like what I was thinking the night this went down. I said it was another Fast N Furious deal, and if anyone dies, Obama don't care….just like his deal with businesses that don't want to have to pony up for everyone's abortion pills through insurance. Why should STANDING RIGHTS ("unalienable") be countermanded by anyone in the US against ANYONE else's Religious Beliefs? Only if it's breaking the commandments of God should the State step in and arrest people who claim religious grounds for their beliefs. The SCOTUS ain't God…..the POTUS, neither.., and we've been standing on that HIGH GROUND of God's law here in the US, as at least the LAST COURT of Appeal for like forever….until lately …..now we're not? HOLY SMOKES!!! Presidents included. Period. End of story.

  39. Margie Medlin

    October 29, 2012 at 4:55 pm

    OMG Obama Must Go!!! This is just the tip of the iceberg. The America as we all know it ….will be NO MORE if he gets 4 more years!!!!!!!

  40. TopMacUSMC

    October 29, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    This is a travesty . . . the entire Bengazi incident is a stain on the Obama administration. Ideally, Obama was the one who should have been relieved, but then look at HIS second in command – not a good choice of C in C. They Two buffoons scurrying to cover up their ineptness. What ever happened to "No one forgotten, no one left behind."
    The administration should be ashamed of their handling of this incident. Eight Days till election – remember this at the polls.

    Semper Fidelis

  41. birddogbjr

    October 29, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    Americans! Voice yourselves…please sign our petition for details regarding this tragedy.
    http://www.change.org/petitions/mr-speaker-of-the

  42. Andrew

    October 29, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    It is not a "foreign policy failure"; It is pure and simple premeditated murder by Obama.

  43. Jim Jones

    October 29, 2012 at 6:56 pm

    They are making this an issue to hide the real reasons behind it all, which is running Libyan armaments thru Turkey to Al Queda and Jihadist rebels in Syria and all the main and cable media are not saying a word about it.

  44. Michael Hankinson

    October 29, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    Don't you watch movies? You cannot be relieved of command without being arrested. Anyway, what a position to be put in! There is not a more telling sign of failed leadership and lack of confidence – when men such as these buck orders.

  45. Eric

    October 29, 2012 at 9:48 pm

    If these claims are true (and we won't know until obama is arrested and relieved of duty), charges of treason and murder should follow. Everyone involved should be taken in: Obama, Panetta, Clinton, etc. If these claims are true, this is the worst thing I've seen in my live in terms of abuse of power.

  46. Michelle Chamberlin

    October 29, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    The Benghazi embassy is US soil. Gen. Ham was doing his duty to protect US soil and American lives. Whoever gave the "stand down" order while our Ambassador and servicemen were calling for help, is heartless and not worthy of the position they hold. General Ham did the right thing.

  47. russ reed

    October 29, 2012 at 10:56 pm

    Regardless of everything, at this point, Obammy is about to have to start adjusting to his post-commander days…because by the grace and decision of God almighty, hes fixing to lose this election miserably…
    And if any more stunts are performed by his minions, handlers, or shadow owners in an effort to cheat his way thru this election contest, we will crucify their asses in public and ensure their political carreers and influence are put on ice.
    And you know damn well these slimy maggots (soros et.al.) have some schemes set up as contingency options if they are threatened with election loss…

  48. jesse

    October 29, 2012 at 11:27 pm

    Sure couldn't trust that second in command to protect our country if the commander in chief was a traitor could you. He would follow orders no matter how wrong they were even if it were to attack American citizens that don't agree with a president that is destroying our country.

  49. Rich

    October 30, 2012 at 12:02 am

    General Carter Ham is being replaced by Gen. David Rodriguez.

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  51. Howard

    October 30, 2012 at 5:24 am

    Very interesting article, if accurate. Such mixed feelings over the actions of the General, which could have saved lives, and respecting the chain of command by blindly following the directives of one’s superiors.
    As an offspring of Grandparents who chose to leave Europe to escape persecution and seek a better life for their born, as well as unborn, children, I think about the response of those who, when questioned about their role in the Holocaust replied, “I was just following orders!”
    As a person who has always had a problem following orders when It didn’t make sense to me, I congratulate General Ham for his decision. He might now been receiving praise as a hero instead of being chastised as a rouge military officer.
    Shame on those that were/are in the top level of the chain of command that chose not to even TRY to save our citizens when under attack. I hope that the full story will surface, albeit after the upcoming election, and those who, perhaps, made improper decisions for political gain, will be prosecuted.
    On September 11th, 2012, numerous United States consulates were attacked, our sovereign territory, and we allowed at least 4 of our citizens to perish, perhaps needlessly. We are choosing to show the rest of the world that our country is weak and will not even TRY to defend its citizens and property.
    Shame on us for allowing our great nation to erode to the apologetic level our leaders have chosen for us. 
    Hopefully a change in leadership will bring a change in direction, morals and values. If not…..shame on us!

  52. sladenotdead

    October 30, 2012 at 9:38 am

    As wrong as the administration's response was, it is never ok to undermine the commander in chief. That option simply isn't on the table, love it or hate it, an order is an order and an oath is an oath. Oaths are taken for a reason, and a part of all military member's oaths is to obey ALL orders.

    • Skip

      October 30, 2012 at 2:05 pm

      It is your correct but not if that order is unlawful or immoral.

    • RetSgtMaj

      November 2, 2012 at 9:33 pm

      Skip is partly correct. The UCMJ requires military members to follow all lawful orders, but in fact tells soldiers they are not only required but have a duty not to follow unlawful orders. Neither the terms illegal nor immoral are used in the UCMJ in regard to following orders, only unlawful. The duty not to follow unlawful orders prevents American military members from using what is often called the "Nürnberg Defense," or committing unlawful acts then claiming they "were only following orders" as many senior German officers tried to do after World War II.

  53. Bishop Harry Greene

    October 30, 2012 at 9:48 am

    This should be a wake up call that OBAMA MUST GO, and his top officials who are making these major mistakes costing American lives should be replaced with folks with common sense. General Ham deserves a medal and a parade in his honor and not to be punished for his having a pair to take action where action was needed.

  54. Snake

    October 30, 2012 at 10:25 am

    Fox News is to News as WWF is to Sports.

    • Skip

      October 30, 2012 at 2:08 pm

      What does the World Wildlife Fund have to do with sports? Or did you mean WWE?? Yeah you lost your “cool points”.

  55. Robert Kimes

    October 30, 2012 at 10:48 am

    don't any of our universities offer post graduate courses in spelling? if some of you guys can't spell simple words correctly, it makes me wonder about your higher reasoning powers. my second grade teacher, miss cole, would be tapping her pointer loudly on her desk by this point!

  56. Kitty

    October 30, 2012 at 11:05 am

    It's Benghazi, not Bengzahi.

  57. Kerry Daly

    October 30, 2012 at 2:42 pm

    If (God forbid!) Obama is reelected, why would anyone now join the military or volunteer for overseas civilian duty, knowing the man holding the title of Commander-in-Chief will throw them under the bus if it's to his political advantage?

  58. CJHames

    October 30, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    I just watched Ret. General Jerry Boykin on Glenn Beck and he said he didn't believe that Gen. Hamm was either arrested nor relieved of his command. Gen Boykin said he knew for a fact that Gen Hamm was working in his office yesterday. So these reports appear to be jumping the gun a bit, as is all-too-often the case with Patriot sites, sadly.

    Let's stick to the fact, folks, they are strong enough to bury Owebama.

  59. theshooter

    October 30, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    Who will ever know the truth? AFRICOM PAO posted this… http://www.africom.mil/africomDialogue.asp?entry=

    According to my sources, generally, these 3 and 4 stars stay in command from 2.5-4 years. Not 18 months.

    But, like I said, who will ever know the truth. As of TODAY, africom.mil shows Ham as the commender – still…

  60. CB3

    October 30, 2012 at 4:42 pm

    I don't see this as being true – the arrest that is.

  61. russ reed

    November 1, 2012 at 5:23 am

    se hable espanol … no speaky englich, dickhead

  62. Ron Smith

    November 2, 2012 at 3:05 am

    I was with Gen. Ham in Weurzburg Germany as a Major went to his LTC promotion…He should be our next 5 star General for his actions.

  63. Joseph Richard

    November 2, 2012 at 8:05 am

    Whoever wrote this dribble has watched too man submarine movies. The army doesn't work like that. No second in command can relieve and/or arrest anyone. And really, the quote was good until the last paragraph which was obviously added in. Doesn't sound anything like the entire rest of the quoted speech. If you are going to make up stories. Do a better job.

  64. EKPiacente

    November 6, 2012 at 5:13 am

    AS long as the US Media is engined by Liberals this is what happens. I as an American citizen had to find out about this situation on a Biker site that I am a member of???? Why has this story been run under the rug???? Does anyone find it interesting to think that this attack happened on Sept 11????

  65. Lynn

    November 11, 2012 at 5:00 pm

    General Washington would never have left any of his men to die if he could help it, even at the risk of his own life. I want to know the real story behind Libya and why our president chose to do nothing. It seems as though there is more to hide than the act itself. Please pray because we now have 4 more years of darkness and secrecy and danger for all of America.

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  67. George McAdoo

    May 13, 2013 at 5:00 am

    Obama has been stripping the US Military of it's patriot American leadership since first "elected". If he is not impeached and removed from office for his incompetence and dereliction of the duties of the Presidency, there are more Communists in Congress than even I have identified. God save us, if we ourselves, refuse to do so.

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