Pentagon Warns Recruit Stations to Report Civilian Guards

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StandUpAmericaus Editor’s Note – In the wake of the Chattanooga terror attack, many civilians have voluntarily begun protecting many recruitment offices across the land; that is, in states where carrying a loaded firearm in the open is still legal.

An honorable thing for sure, especially since the Pentagon ordered the increased security at such installations, but it will take an act of Congress to change the law to allow servicemen other than Military Police to carry. Some are already looking into creating that legislation.

Many Governors, in at least six states have ordered National Guardsman to be armed and protect their state’s recruiting sites, but “at the federal level, Army chief of staff Gen. Ray Odierno said Friday recruiting centers would not have security guards posted nor would recruiters be allowed to be armed. The Marine Corpsreportedly told recruiters to not wear their uniforms to work.” (H/T Gateway Pundit)

Now the Pentagon has taken a further step, warning recruiters about civilians standing watch while armed:

The Army has warned its recruiters to treat the gun-toting civilians gathering at centers across the country in the wake of the Chattanooga, Tenn., shooting as a security threat.

Soldiers should avoid anyone standing outside the recruiting centers attempting to offer protection and report them to local law enforcement and the command if they feel threatened, according to a U.S. Army Recruiting Command policy letter issued Monday.

…“I’m sure the citizens mean well, but we cannot assume this in every case and we do not want to advocate this behavior,” according to the Army Command Operations Center-Security Division letter, which was authenticated by the service.

Recruiters were ordered not to interact or acknowledge the armed civilians, who have been greeted by a mix of concern, indifference and gratitude by the public.

“If questioned by these alleged concerned citizens, be polite, professional and terminate the conversation immediately and report the incident to local law enforcement …,” the command advised. (Read the rest at Stars and Stripes.)

Isn’t it ironic, the very forces that are trained to defend our nation must be defended by civilians and local law enforcement. And when they do step up, the brass is embarrassed, or at least it seems that way.

On what planet does that make sense?

Armed citizens guard recruiters after Tennessee shootings

By ANDREW WELSH-HUGGINS at My Way News

Gun-toting citizens are showing up at military recruiting centers around the country, saying they plan to protect recruiters following last week’s killing of four Marines and a sailor in Chattanooga, Tennessee.

The citizens, some of them private militia members, said they’re supporting the recruiters, who by military directive are not armed.

“We’re here to serve and protect,” Clint Janney said Tuesday, wearing a Taurus 9mm handgun as he stood in a parking lot across from a recruiting center on the west side of Columbus. “What the government won’t do,we will do.”

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Similar posts have been set up outside recruitment centers in several cities around the country, from Spanaway, Washington, to Hiram, Georgia. Other sites are in Madison, Wisconsin; McAllen, Texas; Auburn Hills, Michigan; Phoenix; and several locations in Tennessee, including Murfreesboro.

There’s no evidence that such centers are in danger, and the government isn’t changing how they’re staffed, although some governors have temporarily moved National Guard recruiting centers to armories and several — including Ohio’s John Kasich on Wednesday — have authorized Guard personnel to carry weapons at state facilities.

Janney, 38, who runs his own garage door company, is a member of the Ohio branch of the “3 Percent Irregulars” militia. He was joined by four other members of the militia, some of whom arrived Tuesday and others who’d been there since Friday. In Ohio and many states, it is legal to carry an openly displayed handgun or rifle.

The men sat in lawn chairs, occasionally dipping into a cooler for bottles of water, or stood around talking. Some people came by to thank them; others didn’t seem aware of their presence in the large plaza.

Franklin County Sheriff Zach Scott said that as long as the owner of the plaza didn’t ask them to leave, the men were not violating any laws. Scott has instructed deputies to check on recruiting centers but not the volunteer guards.

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Employees of a medical supply center next to the recruiting center said they understood the volunteers’ intentions but weren’t thrilled about their presence. Customers leaving the store said they appreciated the volunteers but thought professional security guards would be better.

“They could just go crazy with the shooting. You just don’t know their state of mind,” said Kimm McLaughlin, 44.

On Tuesday, the founder and president of Oath Keepers, a Las Vegas-based Constitution activist group made up of current and former veterans and first responders such as paramedics, issued a national call to members to guard centers. Many were already guarding centers in Tennessee, Arkansas and Oklahoma, president Stewart Rhodes said.

Rhodes said it’s “absolutely insane” that recruiters aren’t allowed to be armed.

“They’re sitting ducks,” Rhodes said. “They’d be better off if they were walking down the streets of Baghdad, because at least in Baghdad, they could move. Here, they’re stationary.”

Capt. Jim Stenger, a Marine Corps public affairs officer for the recruiting district that includes parts of seven Midwestern states, said he hopes the gun-toting civilians will go home.

“While we greatly appreciate the support of the American public during this tragedy, we ask that citizens do not stand guard at our recruiting offices,” Stenger said in an emailed statement. “Our continued public trust lies among our trained first responders for the safety of the communities where we live and work.”

A 1992 Department of Defense directive restricts weapons to law enforcement or military police on federal property, which would include recruiting centers. The U.S. Army Recruiting Command doesn’t have a position on the citizens’ actions as long as they aren’t disrupting the recruiting centers, spokesman Brian Lepley said.

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He said that while tragic, such incidents have happened only twice in six years at recruiting centers: in Chattanooga last week, and in Little Rock, Arkansas, in a 2009 shooting that killed one soldier and injured another.

“Recruiting stations need to be out in the public; we need to be out where young people are,” Lepley said. Most recruiters are Afghanistan and Iraq war veterans well trained in dealing with shooters, he added.

A group of veterans and their supporters began guarding a Navy-Marine recruiting station in Madison, Wisconsin, on Friday.

“Just civic pride,” said David Walters, a 30-year-old Army veteran from Baraboo, north of Madison. “It’s good to show that people can still come together.”

He took his turn in front of the station Tuesday with Chip Beduhn, a 44-year-old security guard also from Baraboo. Walters said he was carrying a concealed weapon and would be comfortable with violence if someone tried to attack the station.

In Arizona, armed members of Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s volunteer posses patrolled Tuesday around Army Reserve offices in Buckeye, about 30 miles west of downtown Phoenix.

The sheriff said he decided to have three posse members patrol after an Army Reserve captain requested extra security. Posse members are patrolling the area just outside the Reserve grounds, but Arpaio said they would enter the property if extra security was needed. The sheriff has used posse volunteers for similar patrols in the past.

In Hiram, Georgia, about 30 miles northwest of Atlanta, a group of four or five people stood outside a recruiting office Friday with their personal firearms as a show of support. They had a pop-up tent, a few lawn chairs and American flags, Police Chief Todd Vande Zande said.

“If it makes them feel better as American citizens and they’re not doing anything illegal, then I’m all for it,” he said.

Source StandUpAmerciaUS.org

3 COMMENTS

  1. Great article! It seems that the PC revolution is only getting stronger and our nation's backbone is only getting softer. The military can't arm itself at its OWN facility?! Stop the madness!

  2. There is nothing wrong in utilizing the civilian guards if there is a threat. Moreover, security guards can also help the casue as they are more or less trained for such situations. It is a gret initiative by pentagon which would definitely show results.

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